[On flag displays being lifted from US practices] But remember America is British. [Edwardes frowns and asks for confirmation of what he means] Yeah, go on, definitely. Trump, JD [Vance], they all explicitly say, 'We derive our ideas – and certainly our political model and our political culture – from Britain.' And, 'What a shame you guys seem to have so little pride in your own country and your own model.' If you look back to the 18th and 19th century, we were pretty vulgar, too. There's a lot of flag-waving. So partly, Reform is just bringing it back.
''the guardian'' interview (november 2025)